- furry says 'ekto (and pagan):'
- furry says '- ekto says 'try 2>&1 >/dev/null instead of just >/dev/null''
- furry says 'won't work'
- furry says 'you want >/dev/null 2>&1'
- HungryDavidBlaine says 'that's for me fur, ta'
- furry says 'otherwise you'll just get stderr on stdout, and stdout to
  /dev/null :)'
- ekto says 'no, you won't.'
- ekto's pretty sure you won't, anyway
- ekto says 'cos it works in the order you specify it'
- ekto says 'send #2 to #1, then send #1 to /dev/null'
- furry says 'it don't ;)'
- HungryDavidBlaine says 'what furry says certainly matches what I'm seeing.'
- furry says '2>&1 means "send 2 to whatever fd 1 is currently pointing at" ;)'
- HungryDavidBlaine says 'of course'                                          
- furry says 'so, er, yes, it does work in the order you specify it'          
- ekto says 'coo, so it doesn't.'                                              
- ekto says 'my apologies'